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Monday, April 12, 2021

Will Christ Come Twice or Only Once? Part 4 - The Suffering Saints


Dennis Edwards

Suffering and Death of God’s People During the Great Tribulation  -  Part 4 of 8

We will just stop here for a moment and go over some of the verses that show that God’s people will suffer persecution and even death during the tribulation period. We will look at Daniel first. In Daniel 7:25 we find the tribulation period being described.

Daniel 7: 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they (God’s people) shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. (3 and ½ years)

In Revelation 13:5-7 we see the same description.

Revelation 13: 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Daniel 8:23-24 gives a similar description.

Daniel 8: 23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. 24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

The “holy people” would seem to be God’s people, while the “mighty people” could be the present day USA and its allies?

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Before the Great Tribulation starts, we get a look at a situation in the spirit world where the souls of some departed saints, killed for their faith in Jesus, plead for vengence. They are told they need to wait a bit longer until others like them should arrive.

Revelation 12 goes over the persecution of the Church of believers.

Revelation 12: 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 12: 11 And they (God’s people) overcame him (Satan) by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Revelation 12: 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast out unto the earth, he persecuted the woman (the Church of believers including Mary the mother of Jesus) which brought forth the man child (Jesus). 12: 14 And to the woman (the Church of believers) were given two wings of an eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and the dividing of time, from the face of the serpent. 12: 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood (of lies) after the woman (God’s believing Church), that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. (or lose faith through the flood of lying propaganda).

Revelation 12: 17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman (the beleiving Church), and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”

We see in the above verses that we are reading about that last 3 and ½ year period in which God’s people are under persecution. Here we see the spiritual power annointing the Antichrist or beast is Satan. With words Satan and his Antichrist try to persuade God’s people to give up our faith. But we have the testimony of Jesus. The testimony of Jesus is, that just like Jesus, we will love not our lives unto the death.

In Daniel chapter 11, we see some more verses along the same line of suffering persecution. In verse 11:31, Daniel mentions the Abomination of Desolations which Jesus warned us about in his endtime discourse in Matthew 24:15 and 24:21 when he said,

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)… 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

We see in Matthew that the sign Jesus mentions as the starting point of unprecedented persecution of God’s people will be the placing of the abomination of desolation in the holy place. In Daniel 11:31 we read about that event.

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

In the next verses after the placing of the abomination of desolation we read,

Daniel 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits. 33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. 34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries. 35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

The next verse is Daniel 11:36. It mimics the other verses we have read about the Antichrist.

Daniel 11: 36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

We see some of God’s people during the persecution period will be able to instruct many others. They have the understanding of the Scriptures and know what’s happening and they have the boldness and conviction of the Holy Spirit to speak forth the truth. Yet, although God helps them, some of them shall fall and be killed. Spiritually, their suffering and death will only work to purify them as Jesus, and Apostle Peter, and Apostle Paul have testified.

God Will Bless Us If We Suffer For His Name!

Matthew 5: 11
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

1 Peter 4: 13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

Romans 8: 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

Philippians 1: 29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake.

2 Timothy 2: 12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us.

Hebrews 11: 25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season.

Hebrews 11: 35and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection: 36 And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: 37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; 38 (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. 39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

Many other Scriptures passages could be found to confirm that suffering is good for us. Suffering draws us closer to God. Suffering for God’s sake, for conscience towards God, draws us into His bosom to be comforted and rewarded by Him.

Eventually, Jesus will totally defeat the Antichrist and Satan. But first the Antichrist will be allowed to persecute God’s people, to test them and for them to be a testimony to others. Jesus said,

John 16: 33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Apostle Paul’s Description of the Antichrist

Apostle Paul no doubt obtained his description of Antichrist from the Old Testament Scriptures. Let us review Paul’s warning and description in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4.

2 Thessalonians 2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Some of the Church Fathers quote Apostle Paul when they are talking about the endtimes. We see that Paul reaffirms that the Antichrist will exalt himself above God. Paul also mentions that the Antichrist will “sit in the temple of God, showing that he is God.” What exactly that means is up to debate. Some, however, see this verse as a confirmation of others that seem to indicate there will be some type of “Holy Place” during the endtime period.

What About the Verses in Daniel That Jesus Mentioned?


Jesus also mentioned in his endtime discourse in Matthew 24 that there would be great deception and severe persecution. Christians living under Communist regimes of the past and present have suffered such things. But the key verses in Jesus’s discourse in Matthew 24 are verse 15 and 21-22 which we will go over again.

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)… 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

What Jesus is saying, and Apostle Paul seems to have made reference to in 2 Thessalonians 2:4, is that some type of abominable thing will stand in the holy place and will be the sign that the great tribulation period has begun.

Daniel 9:27 is another verse in Daniel that Jesus wanted us to look at and understand.

Daniel 9: 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

There is a lot to unpack in this verse. I will just give the interpretation as I see it. The “he” is the Antichrist. He will make some kind of an agreement, or pact, or alliance with many nations or people. This agreement is sometimes referred to as a “Peace Pact” or “Holy Covenant.” The pact may have something to do with Jewish religious ritual sacrificing because after 3 and ½ years of the agreement, “in the midst of the week,” the Antichrist breaks the pact and places the abomination that makes desolate in the holy place and stops the sacrifing. Although the pact may involve other topics, it seems to let the Jews begin ritual religious sacrífice on the temple mount or some other holy place.

Apostle Paul’s words in 2 Thessalonians 2 indicate that the son of perdition, or the Antichrist, “shall sit in the temple of God, showing that he is God.” Paul may be speaking of the same event, that is, when the Antichrist places the abomination of desolation. The final revealing of the Antichrist will take place at that time, and will confirm that he is the Antichrist, if it was uncertain before hand.

Jesus tells us that “then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, no rever shall be.” The great tribulation thus begins at that point, which is the midst of the week, half way through the seven year Holy Covenant, or Peace Pact as we have seen in Daniel 9:27.

Once again we read from Daniel 11:31 and note the Antichrist’s actions.

Daniel 11: 31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

With the word “arms,” we see that the Antichrist uses force to take over the “holy place.” In order for the Antichrist to take away the “daily sacrífice,” the sacrifice must have started previously. Some scholars believe that the Holy Covenant or Peace Pact will involve letting the Jewish people resume ritual sacrificial worship on the temple mount, the holy place. The temple mount is considered a holy place for the three Monotheistic religions.

Arabs and Jews considered the temple mount to be a holy place because that is where Abraham sacrificed his son. Christians, though differing in their commitment to a physical holy place, still consider the temple mount, which is close to the place where Christ died for the sins of mankind, to be to a certain extent, a holy place. However, Jesus admonished us that God wanted us to worship Him in spirit and in truth and said the actual place of worship was not of great importance.

John 4: 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Jesus is admonishing us against place worship, or temple worship. He wants us to worship God through our actions and beliefs.

What is the Abomination of Desolation?

Concerning the question of what is the “abomination that makes desolate,” some think it may have something to do with the “image of the beast” found in Revelation 13:14-15. The second beast of the chapter, the false prophet, has supernatural powers and encourages an “image of the beast” to be made and to be worshipped. The “image of the beast” may in fact be the “abomination that makes desolate.” Revelation 13:15 states that the false prophet,

Revelation 13: 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Some have speculated that the “image of the beast” could be some artificial intelligence connected to the beast spiritually through some future technology. The “image” seems to have some sort of life. Could it be that man finally comes to the point where he is able to recreate himself in some form of artificial intelligence that seems to have life? Wouldn’t that be a great offence to God that man worship the works of his own hands as “God.” If we remember the first two commandments, we will see such behaviour will put us in trouble.

Deuteronomy 5:6 I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me. 8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: 9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, 10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

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